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1. PDF Maker: New Bug puts <Figure> tags in the wrong reading order

   Affects Windows Office users who use Adobe Acrobat PDF Maker (the Acrobat ribbon) to export PDFs from MS Office apps. Definitely affects US English versions, and may affect other language versions.

   With the recent Acrobat update on either Sept. 12 or Oct. 17, 2023 (Acrobat ver. 23.006.xxxxx with PDF Maker 23 and Library 23.6.136), figures anchored in the Word.docx file do not end up in the correct location in the PDF's tag tree.

   <Figure> tags are scattered randomly throughout the PDF's Tag Tree, sometimes several pages AFTER their anchor point in the Word.docx. Some <Figure> tags do get placed correctly in the Tag Tree, but the majority don't. (See the 3rd photo in the attached test PDF.)

   This is a very OLD bug that has just resurfaced to haunt us again. It was common in all PDFs exported from Word up until about 2015 or so. I don't have a clue why this *&^%$#@! bug is back in PDF Maker.

   Solutions:

   — Do not update Acrobat until Adobe releases a bug fix. And turn off AutoUpdate in your account management.

   — If your Acrobat was updated to version 23.006.xxxxx and now has the bug, then bypass Adobe PDF Maker entirely and use Microsoft's built-in PDF export utility to create accessible PDFs: File / Save As / PDF and check the option to tag the PDF file. This method places the <Figure> tags in the correct location in the Tag Tree. We have a free tutorial about this method at https://www.pubcom.com/blog/tutorials/ms-office/export-pdf/index.shtml

   Note: Sandbox test of Word 365.docx + Exported PDF are attached.

   This bug needs a critical hotfix as soon as possible. It's a lot of labor to locate where the <Figure> was placed in the tag tree and then move it manually into the correct location. On long documents with hundreds of graphics, it takes nearly a day to correct this by hand.

   Affects Windows Office users who use Adobe Acrobat PDF Maker (the Acrobat ribbon) to export PDFs from MS Office apps. Definitely affects US English versions, and may affect other language versions.

   With the recent Acrobat update on either Sept. 12 or Oct. 17, 2023 (Acrobat ver. 23.006.xxxxx with PDF Maker 23 and Library 23.6.136), figures anchored in the Word.docx file do not end up in the correct location in the PDF's tag tree.

   <Figure> tags are scattered randomly throughout the PDF's Tag Tree, sometimes several pages AFTER their anchor point in the Word.docx. Some <Figure> tags do get placed correctly… more

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2. Make Accessible PDF's accessible.

   The process to make a PDF accessible is overly complicated and buggy. Usually while doing this, something will go wrong and the only way to fix it is to close the document, open it again, do the same process and hope it works. This process should be as simplistic as possible so everything can be accessible.

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   Need Info  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

   Hi Joel,
   We are always working to make it a better of experience for our accessibility customers.
   We’ll be adding the support of Undo/Redo in order panels and Reading Order Tool in our coming releases.
   Can you please tell me why you need the Tags Panel and Reading Order to be merged.

   Thanks
   Rachit.

3. Bug - PDF Tag Panel does not match Reading Order Tool by marking all Tags as Span

   This issue of InDesign and Acrobat incompatibility in regards to Acrobat displaying all spans even when the Reading Order is correct has been around for over two years. We deserve to know what Adobe is doing about it.

   Acrobat Team acknowledges the problem and blames InDesign:

   "It's actually not an Acrobat issue, it's an issue with InDesign and how it's generating the Content that Acrobat is displaying correctly"

   https://forums.adobe.com/message/10005333#10005333

   InDesign Team acknowledges the problem and blames Acrobat:

   "You'd have to talk to the Acrobat team about why they display in the Tags panel the way they do." - Adobe
   https://forums.adobe.com/message/10225230#10225230

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   "Our investigation suggests that the issue lies in the latest update of Acrobat and there is little that can be done at our end to resolve the issue.
   The problem has been communicated to the relevant team.
   In the meanwhile we are closing this thread for InDesign."

   https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs/suggestions/33755254-accessible-pdf-exported-from-id-contains-spans-in

   And closes the issue.

   What is Adobe doing to fix this issue? And don’t tell us that it is not a real problem for screen readers because the Tags panel is ok. When a certain government agency reviews files, they just use the Reading Order Tool when they make complaints against people who use your product. These are not the kind of people who will read all these posts of Adobe blaming each other and then saying it does not matter because some screen readers don't use the reading order. Adobe is basically saying that this feature is pointless. If it is pointless remove it or merge it fully with the Tags panel.

   Besides, there is a lot more assistive technology and applications than just JAWS and NVDA that depend on the reading order and reflow being correct.

   What is Adobe doing to fix this span issue?

   And don’t ask me for more info or more files. You have these posts with detailed explanations and you have already acknowledged the problem exists yourselves and acknowledged that you can reproduce it yourselves. And don’t tell us to go to Forums for help. Because they will send us back to UserVoice.

   Thank you.

   This issue of InDesign and Acrobat incompatibility in regards to Acrobat displaying all spans even when the Reading Order is correct has been around for over two years. We deserve to know what Adobe is doing about it.

   Acrobat Team acknowledges the problem and blames InDesign:

   "It's actually not an Acrobat issue, it's an issue with InDesign and how it's generating the Content that Acrobat is displaying correctly"

   https://forums.adobe.com/message/10005333#10005333

   InDesign Team acknowledges the problem and blames Acrobat:

   "You'd have to talk to the Acrobat team about why they display in the Tags panel the way they do." - Adobe
   https://forums.adobe.com/message/10225230#10225230

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   Under review  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

   Hi,
   I have escalated the issue to the Engineering Team and will get back to you once I get an update on this.

   Thanks
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4. F2 should be returned to renaming function

   With the newest update, F2 (used universally for renaming across every other PC/Windows program/functionality) was changed to a help function that brings up an Adobe Internet help site.

   F1 is used universally for help, and no one needs that much access to Adobe help pages.

   F2 should be returned to renaming. Ctrl-F2 is a ridiculous and difficult change for renaming and it's the worst idea ever.

   I remediate hundreds of PDFs for accessibility, and having to make a more complicated keystroke to rename tags is a huge problem.

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5. Accessibility Requests!!!

   Feature Requests / Bug Reports for the Accessibility features in Adobe Acrobat Pro DC.

   Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (Version 2018.011.20063) on Windows 7 Professional.

   For the Tags panel:
   1. Option to create Lists <L> tags with a set number of List Items <LI> tags instead of one at a time. Time wasted creating one at time.
   2. Option to created tables <Tables> tags with a set number of Rows <TR> tags instead of one at a time. Time wasted creating one at time.
   3. Stop forcing all the Tags folders to all be opened when opening a PDF file! Not efficient if having to reopen a PDF with an extensive Tags structure. These folders need to remain as they were when last saved!

   For the Reading Order Popup menu:
   1. Button to create List Items <LI> and List Body <LBody> for selected text. Currently have to manually change the tag for example <P> to <LBody>. Action Wizard is hit and miss with Lists, so I create from scratch many times.
   2. Button to create Links <Link> for selected text and/or images with a popup box for enter the URL while simultaneously creating its Annotation in the Content panel and in the Tags panel. This would save time.
   3. The Background/Artifact button doesn't work as it should. Items still go to the Tags panel.

   For the Content panel:
   1. Within the Page contents, the option to delete Annotations by selecting it and/or with a right click. This would save time.

   For Adobe Acrobat Pro DC software updates:
   1. Need a way to save my current customized layout so that when the software is updated, it is not lost. Time consuming to recreate with every software update. (iOS and PC).

   Thank you,
   terri@fusiononline.com

   Feature Requests / Bug Reports for the Accessibility features in Adobe Acrobat Pro DC.

   Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (Version 2018.011.20063) on Windows 7 Professional.

   For the Tags panel:
   1. Option to create Lists <L> tags with a set number of List Items <LI> tags instead of one at a time. Time wasted creating one at time.
   2. Option to created tables <Tables> tags with a set number of Rows <TR> tags instead of one at a time. Time wasted creating one at time.
   3. Stop forcing all the Tags folders to all be opened when opening a PDF file! Not… more

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   Under review  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

   Hi,
   I have escalated the request to the higher management and we have kept it in our radar. You may see it in our near releases.

   Thanks
   Rachit

6. Scope and associated header cells in tables should show when you hover over a cell

   It would be amazing if you didn't have to go all the way inside Cell Properties to check and see what a header cell's scope is set as, and what header cells are associated with any given cell in a table. If, once you were already inside Table Editor, that information would be available when you hover over any given cell (could be a feature that can be turned on or off), it would save so much time and effort in a very tedious job.

   When a table is really large or complicated, it can be easy to lose your place when assigning associated headers and scope, and it would be a huge timesaver/help to have this info available on a hover-over.

   Thanks for listening!

   It would be amazing if you didn't have to go all the way inside Cell Properties to check and see what a header cell's scope is set as, and what header cells are associated with any given cell in a table. If, once you were already inside Table Editor, that information would be available when you hover over any given cell (could be a feature that can be turned on or off), it would save so much time and effort in a very tedious job.

   When a table is really large or complicated, it can be easy to lose your… more

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   Under review  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

   Hi,
   Thank you for connecting with us. I have shared your concern with the higher management. I’ll update you on the request one I receive a response.

   Meanwhile, check out the new features on latest version of Acrobat Pro DC.

   Thanks
   Rachit

7. Accessibility Checker to check at WCAG in line with PAC3 App checker

   We are continually getting issues with compliance and the Adobe PDF Checker is not being stringent enough. We have created PDFs that are given a clear bill of health using the Adobe checker but our web team use the PAC3 app to verify and they fail on many levels. We would like Adobe to improve the checker to a similar standard so it then complies with legislation for public service bodies in the United Kingdom. Also, as we use Macs most other checkers are PC only so a level playing field would be immensely helpful. Thanks.

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   Hi,
   Thanks for contacting us. Can you please provide some sample files with the PAC3 checker results so that we can check the difference and proceed accordingly.

   Thanks
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8. Customize keyboard shortcuts

   Like ALL other pro Adobe apps we use, please give users the ability to customize keyboard shortcuts! Thank you.

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9. More Options for Accessibility Tables

   Create 508 compliant PDF documents frequently that need to be passed. These documents more than not have several lengthy tables. These documents also come from different people using different software and versions. And more than not these tables need to be rebuilt. Would love to have the option to create tables in the Tags sidebar from scratch where you can at the same time specify how many TR, TH, and TD and in a certain order. Right now I can only add them one at a time. Also, if there is a way to remove the hard setup of tables. Sometimes there is only one error where a TD is split into two when it should only be one. When I combined the cells, I then get a Regularity error even though the table is setup perfectly like a grid. In this case, I have to completely rebuild the table from scratch to remove the error. Hope in the next few updates, Adobe can add some more of these options for Accessibility tables.
   Thank you.

   Create 508 compliant PDF documents frequently that need to be passed. These documents more than not have several lengthy tables. These documents also come from different people using different software and versions. And more than not these tables need to be rebuilt. Would love to have the option to create tables in the Tags sidebar from scratch where you can at the same time specify how many TR, TH, and TD and in a certain order. Right now I can only add them one at a time. Also, if there is a way to remove the hard setup of tables.… more

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10. Fix the FIX tool for Artifacting

    When you have elements with no alt-text you get accessibility errors when running the checker. However, if you right click on the error and choose "fix" and walk through the items and mark them as decorative, instead of actually making them an artifact it simply changes the tag to "Artifact" which is not a valid tag and creates other errors. You then have to go in and properly designate the objects as Artifacts properly for the other errors to go away. VERY Frustrating. Come on Adobe Acrobat!

    This is a repeatable condition and needs to be fixed immediately please!

    Setting something as an artifact is a state and not a valid tag in the tags tree. Very frustrating that one tool designed to fix an issue actually creates other issues.

    https://youtu.be/cLpXgisBgeg

    When you have elements with no alt-text you get accessibility errors when running the checker. However, if you right click on the error and choose "fix" and walk through the items and mark them as decorative, instead of actually making them an artifact it simply changes the tag to "Artifact" which is not a valid tag and creates other errors. You then have to go in and properly designate the objects as Artifacts properly for the other errors to go away. VERY Frustrating. Come on Adobe Acrobat!

    This is a repeatable condition and needs to be fixed immediately please!

    Setting… more

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    Under review  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

    Hi,
    Thank you for contacting us. I have raised the issue with the engineering team. We have kept it our radar and will be fixing it in the near future.

    Meanwhile I would suggest you to use Reading Order tool to mark the Figure as Artifact for fixing the issue.

    Please update to the latest version of Acrobat Pro DC to experience new features.

    Thanks
    Rachit

11. Losing german äüö (Umlauts) and letters in the Structure Tree when using "Add Tags to Document" in Adobe Acrobat DC

    1. Brief Title

    Losing german äüö (Umlauts) and letters in the Structure Tree when using "Add Tags to Document" in Adobe Acrobat DC (previous operation Number ADB-3207012-T1M7) German Language Problem?

    1. Steps to reproduce the issue

    Export a text document with german words that contain german umlauts (äöü), e.G.: "für, können, öfter, mögen" as a PDF without tags from InDesign or Word
    Open the file in Acrobat DC
    Go to "Tags" and open the little menu and choose "Add Tags to Document"
    After the Structure Tree was created — save and close
    when you open the document again in Acrobat DC and you can take a look at the tags in the Structure Tree and see that the letters are missing in the tags. Not only the umlauts but sometimes accompanying letters aswell
    Examples: "für" -> "fr"; "können" -> "knen"
    Conclusion: blind people can't read these anymore and the document is not accessible anymore!

    The problem doesn't exist in Acrobat X and Acrobat XI.
    The problem occurs with any font and all operating systems.
    The problem was already documented with video and example-documents with the operation Number ADB-3207012-T1M7.

    1. Operating system

    The error occurs in all operating systems.

    1. Expected results

    Loss free texts in the Structure Tree with umlauts and all other letters so that the docment can be read by screen-readers.

    1. Observed result

    Missing letters in the Structure Tree after using "Add tags to Document" mainly in combination with Umlauts äöü and umlaut-ligatures.

    1. Brief Title

    Losing german äüö (Umlauts) and letters in the Structure Tree when using "Add Tags to Document" in Adobe Acrobat DC (previous operation Number ADB-3207012-T1M7) German Language Problem?

    1. Steps to reproduce the issue

    Export a text document with german words that contain german umlauts (äöü), e.G.: "für, können, öfter, mögen" as a PDF without tags from InDesign or Word
    Open the file in Acrobat DC
    Go to "Tags" and open the little menu and choose "Add Tags to Document"
    After the Structure Tree was created — save and close
    when you open the document again in Acrobat DC and… more

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12. Hyperlinks Spanning Multiple Lines

    Hyperlinks that span more than one line create multiple OBJR tags.
    Reproduce: Create file in InDesign with links that span more than one line. Export to PDF/open with Acrobat. Find tag. Link will have two OBJR tags (or more if the link spans more than two lines). This is a bad experience for users of assistive technologies.
    Sometimes manually fixing tags (deleting old links and creating new OBJR tag) isn't sufficient and designer has to resort to editing in the content pane or even using the Actual Text override to get the link to be read by assistive technology properly.
    Please fix so that links that span multiple lines only have one tag.

    Hyperlinks that span more than one line create multiple OBJR tags.
    Reproduce: Create file in InDesign with links that span more than one line. Export to PDF/open with Acrobat. Find tag. Link will have two OBJR tags (or more if the link spans more than two lines). This is a bad experience for users of assistive technologies.
    Sometimes manually fixing tags (deleting old links and creating new OBJR tag) isn't sufficient and designer has to resort to editing in the content pane or even using the Actual Text override to get the link to be read by assistive technology properly.… more

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    Need Info  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

    Hi,
    As we checked on our side, this issue is related to the tagging functionality in InDesign. Please log the issue with them.

    Thanks
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13. Read allowed removed from options

    I am disappointed that your company has decided to remove the read allowed option. As a dyslexic masters graduate who is now studying for a degree in a different subject you are actively discriminating against people with protected disabilities. I am very angry and upset by you discrimination and prejudice because you have a monopoly in the market place. You are using peoples disabilities to make money so they have to buy an advanced product. I hope that the media runs a story about this and your disregard for legislation concerning disabilities. I feel upset and angry at your biased decision.

    I am disappointed that your company has decided to remove the read allowed option. As a dyslexic masters graduate who is now studying for a degree in a different subject you are actively discriminating against people with protected disabilities. I am very angry and upset by you discrimination and prejudice because you have a monopoly in the market place. You are using peoples disabilities to make money so they have to buy an advanced product. I hope that the media runs a story about this and your disregard for legislation concerning disabilities. I feel upset and angry at your biased… more

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    Need Info  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

    Hi Caroline,
    Thank you for connecting with us. Can you please tell me where are you not able to use Read Out Loud.
    Read Out Loud functionality is still available and is in use. There is not decision to remove it.
    Please share the steps and the OS details where you are facing this issue.

    Please update to latest version to have the latest features.

    Thanks
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14. Integration with Dragon Naturally Speaking

    I would welcome efforts by Adobe, including coordination with Nuance, to fully integrate Dragon Naturally Speaking into Adobe Acrobat DC. In trying to fill out editable forms in DC, it does not take my dictation directly into the space provided in the form. It requires me to use the Dragon Dictation Box, which is slow and cumbersome. This improvement would be greatly appreciated by disabled people such as me who have to rely on voice recognition to use their computers fully. I was able to dictate directly into this Comment Box. Thank you for considering my Feature Request.

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15. Invert colours on images embedded in pdf files.

    Invert colours on images embedded in pdf files.

    Hi

    I'm visually impaired. I find anything with a white background unreadable.

    I can change text and text background colours to make text readable but I cannot find a method to change colours used in images embedded in pdf files.

    Please can you add an accessibility option to invert colours in embedded images so black becomes white and white becomes black. NB. All colours will need to be inverted not just black and white.

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    Under review  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

    Hi,
    I have shared the request with the Engineering team and higher management. I’ll update you once we plan on implementing the same.

    Thanks
    Rachit

16. Newest Acrobat

    Newest Acrobat iteration sucks. Accessibility option is more difficult to find, Cannot "pin" as a common tool, requiring multiple clicks. Other features like page zoom, page numbers, highlighting, etc not obvious.

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17. Keyboard shortcuts to reorder items in the tags panel (Accessibility Tool)

    Please add keyboard shortcuts to reorder items in the tag panel.

    Currently, a user must drag and drop tags in the Tags panel to change the reading order. It is easy to drag and drop items in the wrong place.

    To recreate this problem:
    1.) Open a tagged PDF
    2.) Open Accessibility Tools
    3.) Open Tags Panel
    4.) Attempt to re-order items

    It would be extremely useful to be able to do the following
    With a tag selected, I want the ability to do the following with the keyboard:

    -Move the tag up
    -Move the tag down
    -Move the tag in/under another tag (For example, placing a list item under a list)
    -Move the tag out from another tag (For example, nested paragraph tags)

    Please add keyboard shortcuts to reorder items in the tag panel.

    Currently, a user must drag and drop tags in the Tags panel to change the reading order. It is easy to drag and drop items in the wrong place.

    To recreate this problem:
    1.) Open a tagged PDF
    2.) Open Accessibility Tools
    3.) Open Tags Panel
    4.) Attempt to re-order items

    It would be extremely useful to be able to do the following
    With a tag selected, I want the ability to do the following with the keyboard:

    -Move the tag up
    -Move the tag down
    -Move the tag… more

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18. Multiple Tag creation

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    To whomever may be competent to solve the problem....

    There are several incomprehensible bugs with accessibility in Acrobat.

    1. We can't create multiple tags in Tags pannel. Please create option for creating multiple tags just like when we create forms there is an option for do you want to create multiple forms. Screenshot pdf attached for your reference.
    2. We cannot delete Tag ID under Object properties at once. Some time its client requirement that they dont want ID, IDs come when we autotag the document.
    3. While working on a big files and creating tags, tags wont come in sequence, they go under some other tags. They should come just under last or atleast on the root.

    Hi Team

    To whomever may be competent to solve the problem....

    There are several incomprehensible bugs with accessibility in Acrobat.

    1. We can't create multiple tags in Tags pannel. Please create option for creating multiple tags just like when we create forms there is an option for do you want to create multiple forms. Screenshot pdf attached for your reference.
    2. We cannot delete Tag ID under Object properties at once. Some time its client requirement that they dont want ID, IDs come when we autotag the document.
    3. While working on a big files and creating tags, tags wont come in sequence,… more

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19. Acessibility checker manual pass reverts to needs manual check when pdf is reopened

    When you manually check something like navigation links and click pass manually in the accessibility checker, it reverts back to needs manual check when you reopen the saved pdf. What is the point of allowing a manual check if you can't make it stick in the checker report?

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    Need Info  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

    Hi,
    Please share a pdf file so that we can check the issue and resolve it for you.

    Thanks
    Rachit

20. Auto Tag a Single Page

    Acrobat's new Autotag utility re-tags the entire document.

    Sometimes most of the PDF is fine and I just need to correct one page or a portion of content that I've selected.

    But we can't do that: right now, it's all or nothing.

    Give us the option to autotag the entire document, a single page, or the content we have selected with our cursor. Keep the other tags that are already in the PDF.

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    Resolved  ·  AdminRachit Jain (Software Engineer, Adobe) responded

    Hi,
    I believe the suggestion given by Chris will fulfil the requirement.
    Further, we have it in our radar and will implement it in the future.

    Thanks
    Rachit