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    55 comments  ·  Acrobat for Windows and Mac » Creating PDFs  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Hi,

    Thank you for raising these accessibility issues. The post mentions about the following six bugs being introduced with the update that went live on September 14, 2021:

    1: Alt-Text for images from MS Word is not converting into the PDF. Instead, it is dropped and gibberish code is inserted.
    2: Every cell border on every table cell is being tagged as P tag with PathPathPathPath
    3: The underline on Hyperlinks should be tagged as artifacts
    4: Borders and background shadings on Text Boxes are being tagged as a combination of Figure tags and PathPathPath
    5: Paragraph borders and shadings: same deal as #4 above.Per the PDF/UA-1 standard, they are visually decorative and should be artifacted
    6: Dragging and dropping elements in both the Tag and Order panels is now broken

    Would like to mention that out of these, #1 and #6 were introduced with the Sep 14…

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    Bevi Chagnon | PubCom.com commented  · 

    HERE'S ANOTHER BUG:

    Hyperlinks from latest Word 365 + latest PDF Maker don't work.

    See https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/suggestions/44270718-errors-links-in-pdf-made-from-word

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    Bevi Chagnon | PubCom.com commented  · 

    @ Tanvi, https://acrobat.uservoice.com/users/341005120-tanvi-rastogi

    Any update on the fixes? I was told that there was a hot-fix in development.

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    Bevi Chagnon | PubCom.com commented  · 

    ADDITIONAL RELATED ERROR:
    Graphics in Word marked as "decorative" (which should become artifacted in the PDF) have code gibberish Alt-text in the PDF.

    #1: If a graphic is artifacted, it shouldn't have any Alt-Text at all.
    #2: The gibberish Alt-text is being voiced by screen readers.

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    Bevi Chagnon | PubCom.com commented  · 

    #2 of several problems in how PDF Maker tags tables.

    Extra unnecessary tags are created by Adobe's PDF Maker plugin for MS Office. These tags cause the PDF to be inaccessible. See the attached screen captures of a PDF from Word 365 with PDF Maker 21.5.80.

    The unnecessary <P> holds Path Path graphic data for the borders around each cell in a row.

    No human being wants to hear Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path when they access each table row. Screen readers voice the content of these tags, which is what a screen reader is supposed to do.

    From PDF Maker for Office, a <P> Path Path tag is placed at the start of each <TR> row.

    ( KUDOS, you corrected tables from Adobe InDesign's built-in export utility, which used to create an <Artifact> tag (not the artifact attribute) with Path Path graphical data.)

    Problem:

    PROBLEM: it causes Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path to be voiced each time the tag is encountered in the table.

    THEREFORE, remediators must locate each instance of this tag (one for each row of every table) and manually artifact it the correct way. Such a time-waste.

    EXPECTED RESULT:
    These <P> and <Artifact> tags with Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path Path should never ever appear in the tags tree at all, and are correctly artifacted out of the way for screen reader users.

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    Bevi Chagnon | PubCom.com commented  · 

    See this bug report and VOTE!
    https://acrobat.uservoice.com/forums/590923-acrobat-for-windows-and-mac/suggestions/44183082-accessibility-errors-with-pdf-maker-update-sept-20

    PDF Maker is putting <P> tags with PathPathPathPath at the beginning of header rows, and often the remaining rows in a table.

    Let Adobe know your concerns at the above link.

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    PDF Maker is a plug-in for MS Office on Windows. It's not available on Mac.

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    Bevi Chagnon | PubCom.com commented  · 

    Here is a screen cap from Table Editor in a PDF.

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    And do the same for PDFs exported from InDesign.

    Both of Adobe's conversion utilities (export from InDesign and PDF Maker from MS Office) should correctly have the scope and span on all <TH> cells.

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    Adobe, you have 2 engineers on the PDF ISO committees for PDF/UA. THEY know what the tag structure should be and are very active contributors to the standard.

    Refer to the "Syntax Guide" for the correct tag structure for PDF/UA-1. It was co-written by your 2 engineers and others (like me) who are PDF Association members and part of the working group that writes the standard.

    Download a free copy of the Syntax Guide from https://www.pdfa.org/resource/tagged-pdf-best-practice-guide-syntax/

    See sections 4.2.4 and 4.2.5.

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    1 comment  ·  Acrobat for Windows and Mac » Accessibility  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Hi,
    Thank you for connecting with us. I have shared your concern with the higher management. I’ll update you on the request one I receive a response.

    Meanwhile, check out the new features on latest version of Acrobat Pro DC.

    Thanks
    Rachit

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