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    David Davies commented  · 

    #Anonymous - sorry - I just realised that you are talking about the items on the Page Control bar.

    Yes - the only thing on there not available anywere is the scale - now THAT would be a useful thing on the toolbar for anyone involved in graphics.

    HELLO ADOBE - ARE YOU READING ANY OF THIS?

    David Davies commented  · 

    #Anonymous
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    - Fit-to-window has always been available as CTRL+0, and this shortcut is shown on the item in the view menu. As a toolbar item Fit-to-window can be permanently displayed or hidden - in the view menu/show-hide/toolbar-item/show-Select-&-zoom-tools.

    - scrolling mode tool can be permanently available or hidden, see under view menu

    - Page controls can be permanently on show or permanently hidden (look in the view menu under show/hide, and if on show can be either floating on the page or docked in the tool bar.

    David Davies commented  · 

    Mr Senior - you live and learn. I am pleased to have been some help.
    I have made a number of approaches to Adobe - via this thread, and the one about the Big Blue Share Button, and also via answers to direct contact from them, but this just seems to be falling on deaf ears.
    They seem to have had a redesign by someone who only understands one of the several functions which Acrobat is used for - the editing/sharing brigade. I am astonished that this thread seems to have been ignored by adobe for so long.

    David Davies commented  · 

    ~Stephen Senior:
    you say "For Example "Fit Page" is now buried in a drop down as "Zoom to page level"
    Let's be fair to Adobe here - Ctrl+0 is an almost universal command for fit to page, not just in Adobe software. I've never heard of anybody using it from a menu more than once - the shortcut is shown when you go to the menu.

    David Davies commented  · 

    I see we've reached the "abusive trolling" stage of the discussion. I believe that the next stage is for someone either to start using swear words or to liken Adobe to the Nazi regime of the 1930s.

    AnonX - let's keep it to a productive discussion shall we?

    Acrobat is a major tool for some very very different operations, and we the users need to explain our problems to Adobe, not to start telling people they should "be ashamed" when they are trying to help.

    David Davies commented  · 

    Anonymous: Where have you been?

    For a halfway measure it has always been possible to dock the annoying window into the toolbar.

    And the wast of space which is the Page Controls has been addressed and fixed. It was sorted in an upgrade some few months ago. (It was one of the first things I and many others complained about.)

    Firstly make sure your Acrobat is up to date, then go to the VIEW > SHOW/HIDE > PAGE CONTROLS > HIDE PAGE CONTROLS

    The page controls will now disappear completely until you choose to SHOW them. This gives you more room to get your chosen items in Quick Tools to stay in sight.

    Dave

    David Davies commented  · 

    At least there is now this option for contacting them, and Adobe say this issue is UNDER REVIEW - so at least that is an improvement.

    They have already addressed a number of the worst problems - at least you can now have some of your custom tools visible.

    Unfortunately this has been one of those updates where Adobe forgets to ask the users what they actually do with the product, and so they let some clueless nerd make a pretty interface. (Anyone remember the infamous Illustrator 7? - Adobe stuffed up a very good product so completely by not asking the customer what they use it for, that they had to rush version 8 out to stop a mass exodus to Freehand and CorelDraw).
    With Acrobat there are a number of very different uses - which have very little common ground in the tool sets they use.
    I use it as "the Industry Standard software" for moving artwork files across the Printing industry and I have no interest in Notes, Signatures, and all that. However there are others whose use it entirely for edits and approvals who have no interest in the tools I need.
    Adobe made the Schoolboy error of trying to create a "one size fits all" interface and forgot that the prime feature of Acrobat is customisation to a number of very different uses.

    David Davies commented  · 

    Chris - doesn't the Quick Tools function do that? Go to the view menu: Show/Hide: Toolbar Items and you have the option to show or hide Quick Tools, and the option to Customise Quick Tools.
    This gives you the ability to put any tools you use frequently into a toolbar which will always be in view.

    David Davies commented  · 

    Having finally made it possible to permanently hide the Page Controls, you still waste valuable toolbar space with the Help and Feedback icons.

    Please will you remove the FEEDBACK and the HELP icons and put them out of the way somewhere - you don't seem to have understood that we who use the product in Pre-Press need AS MUCH SPACE FOR TOOLS AS POSSIBLE

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    David Davies commented  · 

    #Anonymous - Am I missing a point here?
    You can hit ctrl-O, you have the OPEN option in the FILE menu, and RECENT FILES is available at a click - what more do you want?

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    4 comments  ·  Acrobat for Windows and Mac » Page Operations  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →

    Hi Mike

    We have shared your concern with the team and we will look into this. In the meantime as you yourself mentioned, you can resize the thumbnails panel to a size where you can accommodate more thumbnails and can still see the document.
    Sorry for the inconvenience.

    Regards
    Vivek

    David Davies commented  · 

    SMALLER THUMBNAILS OPTION PLEASE!!
    I have to re-order documents running to hundreds of pages - I used to be able to make thumbnails small enough to do this, but Adobe have now decided that minimum size is so big that I can only ever get about 50 pages in view.
    As is so often the case Adobe have removed a vital function without consulting the users.

    Don't be too downhearted Adobe - there are positives too:- I am impressed that there is now this option to give feedback and that many of the stupid things Adobe did with recent versions of Acrobat have now been addressed.

    Please give us back that smaller thumbnails option.

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